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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Jun 9, 2013 11:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Lives of Others or Are you self censoring what you post for political reasons? (Yet.)

re: "words" and "phrases" and spying

From now on, everyone in The World should immediately begin using words like "terrorist" and/or "detonate" in each and EVERY digital communication they make every day. Always sprinkle many of these keywords and phrases randomly, like I did in my example (below).

Wouldn't the NSA and the CIA and the FBI and the Homeland Security computer systems and their networks 'melt down'? Wouldn't their spy-vendors' data-mining apps become ineffective, due to zillions of "false hits"? Probably.

Notice how your spending and shopping records become priceless to them (at this point). Bingo! Try using cash instead. Always use the same ATM for getting your cash. Now you're just another silhouette like me. Priceless to me (at this point).

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 9, 2013 7:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Lives of Others or Are you self censoring what you post for political reasons? (Yet.)/ Edward Snowden interview

It is too bad that this issue is so serious b/c the half-step CYA, "I didn't know anything", from the CEO's is very amusing.

A very good editorial from Iconic Photos of all places > https://iconicphotos.wordpress.com/

E- Mr. Whistleblowers interview > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-why

Q: What do you think is going to happen to you?
A: "Nothing good."

This post was modified by micah6vs8 on 2013-06-10 02:43:58

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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Jun 12, 2013 10:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Lives of Others or Are you self censoring what you post for political reasons? (Yet.)/ Edward Snowden interview

re: leaking vs whistle-blowing; no journalism vs good journalism

Chris Hedges is a longtime journalist, now senior fellow at The Nation Institute, foreign correspondent for The New York Times before that for 15 years, part of the team that won the Pulitzer Prize for coverage of global terrorism. He was interviewed on DemocracyNow today.

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/6/12/is_edward_snowden_a_hero_a
Mr. Hedges sums it up:

CHRIS HEDGES: Well, we used to have a mechanism. It was called the press. And we used to be able to tell our sources that they would be protected and that they would not be investigated for providing information that exposed the inner workings of power. Unfortunately, the press, like most institutions in this country, and I would add the legal profession, has largely collapsed under this corporate coup d’état that’s taken place and is no longer functioning. And I want to get back, that what this is fundamentally a debate about is whether we are going to have, through the press, an independent institution within this country that can examine the inner workings of power or not. And it is now — I mean, many of us had suspected this widespread surveillance, but now that it’s confirmed, we’re seeing — you know, why did Snowden come out publicly? Well, because I think he knew that they would find out anyway, because they have all of Glenn Greenwald’s email, phone records and everything else, and they can very quickly find out who he was speaking to and whether Snowden had contact with him. And that — you know, I speak as reporter — is terrifying, because it essentially shuts down any ability to counter the official propaganda and the official narrative and expose the crimes. And we have seen in the last few years tremendous crimes being committed by those in power. We have no ability now to investigate them.

I just don’t buy this argument that, you know, this hurts national security. I covered al-Qaeda for The New York Times, and, believe me, they know they’re being monitored. The whole idea that somehow it comes as a great surprise to jihadist groups that their emails, websites and phone calls are being tracked is absurd. This is — we’re talking about the wholesale collection of information on virtually most of the American public, and the consequences of that are truly terrifying. At that point, we are in essence snuffing out the capacity of any kind of investigation into the inner workings of power. And to throw out this notion that it harmed — this harmed national security, there’s no evidence for that, in the same way that there is no evidence that the information that Bradley Manning leaked in any way harmed national security. It didn’t. What the security and surveillance state is doing is playing on fear and using that fear to accrue to themselves tremendous forms of power that in a civil society, in a democracy, they should never have. And that’s the battle that’s underway right now, and, frankly, we’re losing.

AMY GOODMAN: Chris Hedges, just 30 seconds, and I know that you were attending the Bradley Manning trial, but linking the two.

CHRIS HEDGES: Well, we’re talking about the death of a free press, the death of a civil society. This is far beyond a reasonable debate. We make the East German Stasi state look like the Boy Scouts. And if we don’t wrest back this power for privacy, for the capacity to investigate what our power elite is doing, I think we can essentially say our democracy has been snuffed out.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Jun 12, 2013 5:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Lives of Others or Are you self censoring what you post for political reasons? (Yet.)/ Edward Snowden interview

I'm not unsympathetic with the general thrust of his comments, but this part is wrong on a number of levels..

"We make the East German Stasi state look like the Boy Scouts."

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Jun 13, 2013 10:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Lives of Others or Are you self censoring what you post for political reasons? (Yet.)/ Edward Snowden interview

isnt there a boy scout forum???